This is a bit of a niche place. I had been once before with an experience similar to other reviews - good massage that only allowed self service. Went in again, because I was in the area, and figured a good massage with a cute girl would have been ok. Mamasan persuaded me to get the four hand, telling me everyone's young an pretty. I agreed, and while in the room one walked in and started massaging me. That was Crystal - whom the form matches - young, very pretty. The second Susan entered a minute later, not as young or pretty, but not laundry lady either. Maybe late thirties, decent looking for her age. In terms of massage, this was the best four hand I've ever had. They worked in perfect unison matching speed pressure and strokes. Lot's of butt and inner thigh work. Coming in, I thought this was just a place that didn't finish, but tolerated self service - but after this visit - it's the opposite, where they do everything they can to get you turned on then encourage (or borderline insist) you finish yourself while they work erogenous area's but won't touch that. So overall, the girls are mostly young and attractive, and the massage is very good. If they finished this would probably be the best place in the valley, but since they don't, for me at least, it's more of a novelty stop for something different. I did try numerous times to get a little more assistance, but one told me I had been there before, so knew what was to come. Seems like this is their business model, and they strictly adhere to it.